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Official Newsletter of the Battle of Midway Roundtable

 

5 March 2011

Issue Number:  2011-06

Our 14th Year

 

 

 

~ AROUND THE TABLE ~

 

MEMBERS’ TOPICS IN THIS ISSUE:

 

1.  Early Japanese Plans for Midway

2.  Midway: Japan’s “Bridge Too Far?”

3.  Morison History Reissued

4.  Japanese Estimates of USN Aircraft Combat Radius

 

 

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1.  EARLY JAPANESE PLANS FOR MIDWAY

 

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27 January 2011

From:  Ron Martell

Florida

 

I have yet to read any account of the BOM that refers to the 5 November 1941 Combined Fleet Operations Order No. 1 as establishing a pre-Pearl Harbor intention to attack Midway and the Aleutians.  Most accounts seem to imply Yamamoto made up the Midway plan in 1942, and he, rather than the General Staff, insisted on the Aleutians operation.  Parshall and Tully and some others recognize the Aleutians operation was not simply a diversion.

 

See Chapter IV [in the link].  This order, issued in the name of the emperor and therefore to be obeyed, identified targets for the Second Phase of operations, and in part stated: 

 

“The following areas will be occupied or destroyed as soon as the operational situation permits:

a.  Eastern New Guinea, New Britain, Fiji and Samoa areas

b.  Aleutians and Midway areas.”

 

In early April 1942, the IJN General Staff and Admiral Yamamoto’s staff spent four days arguing which operation should come first in order to lure the American fleet into a decisive battle.  Yamamoto believed Midway should come first followed by Fiji and Samoa, and the General Staff believed the opposite.  The question was purely a matter of timing.  Yamamoto forced his plan and the General Staff in turn wrested his consent to proceeding with the attacks on Port Moresby and the Aleutians.  If the General Staff had prevailed in early April, the Doolittle Raid on 18 April would in all likelihood have put the Midway attack first to be executed without delay.

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2.  MIDWAY: JAPAN’S “BRIDGE TOO FAR?”

 

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20 February 2011

From:  Robert M. Jones

Texas

 

Suppose that the enemy's plan had succeeded and he'd taken Midway.  Would Nimitz have necessarily sent out the U.S. fleet?  Would the main part of the Japanese plan, the general fleet action, have worked?

 

I suggest not.  Japanese carrier aircraft (all that they would have on Midway) would not have the range for round trip attacks on Pearl.  If Nimitz refused to take the bait, the enemy would have been terribly extended on a base he could not have supplied long term.  We could have waited until his carriers were headed home, and then come out and dealt with whatever forces were stranded on or around the atoll.  In short, I think Yamamoto made the same mistake Hitler made in Russia, pushed his forces too far beyond the logistical ability to support them.

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3.  MORISON HISTORY REISSUED   ( see issues 04 and 05 )

 

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21 February 2011

From:  CAPT Edward C. Flynn, USNR-Ret

Texas

 

Samuel Eliot Morison was aware that problems might pop up down the road by writing his history of U.S. naval operations in WW2 so soon after the war.  He addresses this in his preface to Volume 1: The Battle of the Atlantic:

 

“No history written during or shortly after the event it describes can pretend to be completely objective or even reasonably definitive.  Facts that I know not will come to light; others that I discarded will be brought out and incorporated in new patterns of interpretation.  Nevertheless, I believe that more is to be gained by writing in contact with the events, when most of the participants are alive, than by waiting until the ships are broken up and the sailors have departed to wherever brave fighting men go.  Historians in years to come may shoot this book full of holes; but they can never recapture the feelings of desperate urgency in our planning and preparations, of the excitement of battle, of exultation over a difficult operation successfully concluded, of sorrow for shipmates who did not live to enjoy the victory...”

 

I think Morison would be the first to commend Jon Parshall, John Lundstrom and Barrett Tillman for subsequent research and writings and for their introductions to USNI's volumes 4, 5 and 8 of his History of United States Naval Operations in World War II.

 

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4.  JAPANESE ESTIMATES OF USN AIRCRAFT COMBAT RADIUS

 

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3 March 2011

From:  Lu Yu

Iowa

 

A classic question about the BOM is why Nagumo didn't choose an immediate launch, or preparation for launch, of his strike aircraft around 0830 when Tone #4's report mentioned the presence of one U.S. carrier.  One of Senshi Sosho's explanations (Isom also cites this in Midway Inquest), per Genda's account, is that the Japanese thought the distance between U.S. carrier and [the Japanese] force was too long for the Americans to launch a coordinated attack.  They calculated the distance as 210 nautical miles, based on the wrong position reported by Tone #4, and thought this distance was relatively safe.  They thought that even though SBDs and TBDs might have been able to attack at that distance, F4Fs couldn't escort due to their short range.  So here are my thoughts and questions about this issue.
 
(1)  What is the combat radius for F4F, SBD-2/3 and TBD?  Various sources give different figures.  Lundstrom and Tillman gave the following: F4F-4 175 miles, TBD 175 miles, SBD 225 miles with 500 pound bomb and 175 miles with 1000 pound bomb.  Were these figures used in the actual battle?  How rigid are they?  It appears that the Japanese thought the SBD has combat radius greater than 200 nautical miles and the F4F (perhaps based on F4F-3) less than 200 nautical miles.
 
(2)  The calculated distance by the Japanese, between their position and the reported U.S.  carrier's position is not so accurate.  I used a ruler to measure the distance on the search charts in Shattered Sword and Midway Inquest and got the following results:


Shattered Sword -- 193 nm at 0728
Midway Inquest -- 199 nm at 0728, 199 nm at 0830, 200 nm at 0920


All these numbers are a little different from 210 nm.  Is this a normal error?  Or is there anything wrong in the course track of Kido Butai?  Note that the reported U.S.  carrier's position is fixed ("240 nm and 10 degrees from Midway").
 
(3)  A problem associated with (1) and (2) is the unit of distance measurement.  Most American accounts use "mile" and I assume "mile" alone means statute mile.  But when Nagumo Report (translated version) is cited, mile is still used (this occurs even in Shattered Sword and The First Team).  Actually, in the original report (hand-written in Japanese), all these “miles” are nautical miles (kanji: 浬). The Japanese seldom used statute mile (kanji: 哩) at that time.  This confusion caused by translation could bring an unnecessary error in distance measuring.
 
(4)  There is a small chance that Genda and Kusaka used the "distance issue" to cover up their tactical blunder.  That is, when the decision was made, the "distance issue" didn't have so much weight as claimed by Genda and Kusuka.
 
Any ideas on the above issues are warmly welcomed.

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Ed. note:  New member Lu is from China and a student at the University of Iowa.

 

 

 

 

~ NOW HEAR THIS! ~

 

NEWS & INFO IN THIS ISSUE:

 

-  William Leonard and VF-3/42

-  69th BOM Anniversary Announcements

-  Featured Link

-  Editor’s Notes

 

 

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WILLIAM LEONARD AND VF-3/42

 

The urgent circumstances that barely got the Yorktown into the BOM created a couple of oddities with regard to its embarked air group.  One was the temporary re-designation of VB-5 as “VS-5.”  CINCPAC’s air staff evidently thought that bringing VB-3 aboard would somehow cause confusion—two VB squadrons on the same carrier—so VB-5 got renamed, to the consternation of VB-5 personnel.

 

Even more confusing was the ad-hoc fighter squadron, a merger of Jimmy Thach’s VF-3 with the Yorktown’s VF-42.  Since Thach was the senior commander present (VF-42’s commander was detached ashore), the combined squadron went down in history as “VF-3” in the BOM.  That rankled VF-42’s personnel, since most of the pilots and planes and all of the enlisted support came from their squadron.  During the Roundtable’s earliest years, Yorktown veterans (especially the VF-42 vets) were very vocal in pointing out the reality of the situation.  For that reason the squadron is usually referred to as “VF-3/42” here, although you probably won’t find a designation like that anywhere else.

 

But there is more confusion to be found in the VF-3/42 story, and this may be another of those circumstances in which the Roundtable deserves some credit for correcting the historical record.  Among the pilots accompanying Thach to the Yorktown was his executive officer, LCDR Donald Lovelace, who was tragically killed in a flight deck accident on May 30th.  Since VF-42’s senior pilot (and future Roundtable member) LT William Leonard was the next senior officer, the assumption down through the years has been that he was assigned as XO to replace Lovelace.  Morison, Lord, and Prange didn’t go into that much detail in their BOM books, but John Lundstrom’s The First Team (1984), which focused primarily on the Navy’s fighter pilots, did state that Leonard was named the squadron XO.  That was repeated in 1990 by Robert Cressman and his coauthors who wrote our most respected BOM reference, A Glorious Page In Our History (1990).  Additionally, VF-42’s aviation mechanics proudly thought their guy had received the appointment, renumbering his F4F before the battle to “F-13,” the squadron XO’s number.  (No wonder that Lundstrom and the Glorious Page authors recorded it as they did.)

 

It recently came to my attention that, in fact, it wasn’t quite true.  The article in issue #4 about Thach stated that Leonard did replace Lovelace as XO, which has been my understanding from the beginning.  But Bill Vickrey, who was well acquainted with Leonard, said that it didn’t happen that way, at least not officially.  While Leonard carried out the executive officer’s functions as the senior pilot after Lovelace, no actual appointment ever occurred.  A letter from Leonard to Vickrey stated that Leonard’s official duty in the squadron was as flight officer, and that never changed.

 

Leonard’s son and Roundtable member Rich Leonard confirmed that for us in a recent e-mail.  In fact, his explanation on this matter has been available on-line for years; you just had to know where to find it.  It’s on Chris Hawkinson’s BOM web site, and you can read it here.  Rich amplified that for us last week with the following message, quoted in part:

 

“According to what he said, he was named XO, but...you’ll never see anything of an official documentation of same; just as there were no written orders actually [transferring] the VF-42 pilot contingent to VF-3. 

 

“After Lovelace was killed, Thach, as I always heard it, told [Yorktown air group commander Oscar] Pederson that Dad would take over the XO job as he was next senior; Pederson, pleased for his one time wingman, went along with that.   From a command standpoint, designating a new XO makes sense.  Thach knew he was flying the escort mission and he needed to leave someone in charge with the recognized authority to be in charge...

 

“And, yes, the VF-42 maintenance types struck Dad’s #26 below and renumbered it as #13, half-way through the squadron numbering sequence...the XO’s side number in the pre-war way of doing things.”

 

So our distinguished BOM historians and authors can be excused for seeming to record Leonard as Lovelace’s literal replacement in the combined squadron.  It just never happened officially, and the Navy hardly ever did such things without making it official.  But that’s consistent with the strange tale of VF-3/42 at Midway since, as Rich points out, there never even was anything official about joining the two squadrons together.  They simply did it in a hurry without the usual formalities, because that’s what the frantic circumstances aboard the Yorktown required at the time.

 

Many thanks to John Lundstrom, Rich Leonard, and Bill Vickrey for their input on this topic.   —RR

 

 

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69th BOM ANNIVERSARY ANNOUNCEMENTS   ( See issue #05 )

 

Here’s more about the BOM commemoration at Pensacola on June 3rd.  The event is hosted by the Navy’s Center for Information Dominance (CID), Corry Station.   It lasts about two hours, with a reception afterward.  BOM vets are especially invited, but the ceremony is open to the public, with local and Navy media coverage.

 

Corry Station is just two miles from NAS Pensacola, the home of the National Museum of Naval Aviation.  If there are any Roundtable members who would like to attend the Corry Station event, a side trip to the NMNA museum is very highly recommended and can help make for a very full and interesting day.

 

To attend the Corry Station commemoration, your RSVP is required by May 30th.  See the contact info in your “new issue” e-mail announcement.

 

 

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FEATURED LINK

 

Thanks to all the members who brought this to the Roundtable: a sunken TBD, only a few miles off the coast near San Diego, is the latest and most likely candidate for salvage.  If successful, it will become a major addition to the National Museum of Naval Aviation, since the last  TBD to survive the war (out of the water, that is) is long gone.

 

The story is covered in two sequential on-line news articles, each with a video clip.  (Try to ignore the Vindicators being passed off as Devastators in the videos.)

 

Click here for part 1.

 

Click here for part 2.

 

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EDITOR’S NOTES

 

~  Re the photo of fighter pilots on the Hornet featured in the last issue, Bill Vickrey pointed out that among the 30 pilots pictured, 27 Navy Crosses were awarded.  The figure includes awards after the BOM.

 

~  If you are involved in or have the details about other BOM anniversary events or unit reunions, please pass the word and you’ll see it publicized here.